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Ohio Museum Ready for Big Arby's Sign

The American Sign Museum is ready to accept the sign at 1340 Lincoln Boulevard and the owners are ready to donate it as they prepare to turn the Arby's into a Wendy's.

The giant cowboy hat-shaped sign at 1340 Lincoln Blvd. will live even though the "delicious" roast beef sandwiches it's advertising will not.

The will be shuttered and turned into a Wendy's while the sign is relocated to its new home at the American Sign Museum in Ohio.

The only step left before Santa Monica bids farewell to the retro sign is for the property owners to secure final permits from the city for the restaurant changeover.

According to Mike Dampf, the regional construction engineer for Wendy's, the company is in the process of drawing up the documents needed to apply for those permits.

Wendy's agreed to donate the sign, first to a museum of neon in Glendale, but it turned down the sign because of the sign's size—20 feet wide by 35 feet high, according to Ken Kutcher, attorney for the property owners John and David Bohn.

As first reported by the Santa Monica Daily Press, the sign was then offered to the sign museum in Cincinnati. Museum co-owner Tod Swormstedt said that he was excited to get the sign, but that he was not sure when it would come to the museum. Wendy's has agreed to pay for dismantling and moving the sign, in addition to donating it.

Neither Dampf nor Kutcher could offer any specifics on when the sign would actually be relocated beyond that it wouldn't happen until the restaurant changeover actually begins, and that depends on when the project finally winds it way through the rest of the city planning approval process.

Far from being a tussle, the story of what to do with the neon sign for the sandwich fast food restaurant is one of cooperation between several entities, including the city's Landmarks Commission, Wendy's and Arby's corporate offices, the property owners and the sign museum.

"We wanted to see if there was a solution that was not provocative, that was cooperative," said Kutcher.

The story starts when the Wendy's Company bought a significant interest in the Arby's Restaurant Group last July, and then decided it wanted to change the Arby's restaurant on Lincoln Boulevard to a Wendy's.

Under normal circumstances, such a change would not have drawn much interest, except that the sign for the restaurant had been designated a "meritorious" sign, which means that it does not have to conform to current city rules for signage.

Still, the city's Architectural Review Board recommended that the sign not be demolished.

"Since the sign is not a designated Landmarked[sic], and the fast food brand is changing to Wendy's, [city] staff has asked the applicant to consider donating the sign to preserve it for novelty sake," the board wrote in a Dec. 5 memo, noting that staff could not require that the sign be preserved.

The matter went before the city's Landmarks Commission Dec. 12, even though the Commission doesn't have any actual authority over the sign. A letter written by Kutcher on behalf of the Bohn family, who owns the land that the restaurant sits on, hints at why the Wendy's representatives chose to donate the sign.

"If the Commission were to direct the filing of a nomination application [for Landmark status], it would prevent Wendy's from obtaining the necessary approvals needed from the Architectural Review Board," the letter reads.

"It wasn't up to us to approve it or not approve it unless we decided to Landmark it" said Roger Genser, of the Landmarks Commission.

Dampf conceded that the company did have the right to demolish the sign, but decided that it would be better to make the donation.

"We thought it would be a good coporate neighbor thing," he said.

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j pena May 23, 2013 at 09:19 am
The City Council and Planning Commission have given our city away to billionaire developers andRead More business. Developers should be footing the bills. They need to stop rolling over to the likes of Dell, owner of the Miramar, who ripped off the city for several million dollars already. Instead they are considering letting him build 150 5 million $ luxury condos at the Miramar. In a residential neighborhood, a 22 story eyesore at our city gate.
Eddie Greenberg May 8, 2013 at 09:09 pm
Thank you Marilyn Wexler. I totally agree with all that you have said in this eloquent letter. SMPDRead More have done well in DUI checkpoints for the past few years and they are appreciated for doing so. We are all better off for their efforts!
Aaron Mirsky April 11, 2013 at 06:26 pm
Great letter! Mr. Hill, you have a wonderful perspective and attitude. I am relatively new hear, myRead More family moved to Santa Monica in 1976. I cherish my memories at Santa Monica Beach and hope to continue to "refresh my soul" for many years to come.
Steven Rosen April 10, 2013 at 01:43 pm
Beautiful letter and I under his perspective. But I think if you look at the Quality of Life from aRead More generic standpoint (if there is such a thing), I don't think we headed in an upward trajectory. I cannot imagine more traffic, and new skyline created by tall buildings and newly-required traffic management to make the Quality of Life better for any of us.
Stodj April 9, 2013 at 04:41 pm
Lovely comment. I sense from your letter a new perspective on why this growth is happening, besidesRead More the $ involved, everyone needs to refresh their souls in this time of history and Santa Monica does that...at least at the beach where, hopefully, building will not progress. We do need to focus on halting the height of buildings as that will seriously change the environment here. Thanks, Michael.
karen April 11, 2013 at 11:02 pm
I left Santa Monica in 1987. I went to Samohi and Lincoln, worked at Sears and loved the small townRead More feel. Yes it's changed, but so has everywhere else. If my kids were young enough to drag along I would move there in a heartbeat. If you don't like it anymore, don't visit. I don't really understand why anyone would write to a local media outlet and complain about the town. How insulting. I'll take SM over the Bay area (talk about expensive!) any day.
SantaMonicaNative April 8, 2013 at 07:02 pm
Continued (sorry) The city changes. More people, more housing needed. More people more cars, moreRead More traffic, more trash, more dogs. Next we get the commercial builders who see Santa Monica as a cashbox. In city where 10 stories is tall, we get money hungery people who don't live here, who think 20 stories is better. That's where we are now. A turning point in the city. Once you build them you can't take them back. The city will change even more with the Expo line. We can't stop change, we can't restrict building except through zoning. We can temper it. What we can do is shop locally to save the few local businesses that remain and call City Hall on over ambitious projects. Speak up! It's frustrating-they don't listen but eventually they can be voted out. Don't let Santa Monica turn into Beverly Hills by the sea. We need normal businesses we can afford. Places to eat that you don't need a loan. Stop voting for group politics, read the ballot, get involved, even if only on a personal level. Know your city, don't just complain.
SantaMonicaNative April 8, 2013 at 06:47 pm
My parents loved Santa Monica, the first place i remember was a huge old house on 4th and MontannaRead More which had been subivided into units. If my parents had kept all the properties they owned in this city, i'd be rich. That said i must admit i still love Santa Monica. Go back to any city you grew up in and you will be shocked by the change. Part of the change has to do with the congested state if Caliornia. There are more people, no doubt of that. The other thing is memory tends to blur the facts. The things that matter to an adult are meaningless to a child. There are so many things that have disppeared from this city but they have been replaced by other things. Nothing but bugs are ixed in amber,cities can't be. In addition to that, Santa Monica has not grown in a natural fashion. The City Council has intervened in the natural growth of the city with laws, taxes and programs to fashion a city THEY want, not necessarily what would have been. The city has been pushed into a schitzophrenic combination of high ideals and directed outcomes. Rent control remade the city, changing it from a city with children and families to single renters. Vacancy decontrol helped to change that. Mom and pop owners are almost gone. Few small businesses can exist here, they can't compete with chains The city favors tenants over landlords, lawyers are expensive so properties get sold, torn down and replaced by multiple units. Low income housing increases the density of neighborhoods.
Steve Herbert April 10, 2013 at 08:12 pm
Many folks say the biking is not for them, therefore it can't work for everyone. What should theyRead More should say is it may not work for them but if a larger percentage of those who can ride would, the total numberof drivers would be reduced as more of them are out of their cars and riding bikes. Also consider if you can afford to drive a car you very likely can afford an electric bike. These "hybrids" are a nice blend of an electric motor with a bicycle which can provide as much or as little assistance as the rider prefers. As they still qualify as bikes so you can use and benefit from the bike lanes, but as they are electric they can help those with arthritis, sciatica and other people make the impossible, possible.
RJ April 9, 2013 at 06:18 pm
...ditto Paul!
RJ April 9, 2013 at 06:17 pm
.....Barbara, you forgot to add the need to eliminate about half of the population in Santa MonicaRead More before one could "rediscover" the sleepy beach town it used to be. Then don't forget the other "bike riders" that drive just a crazy as some automobile drivers....failing to abide by the rules of the road...and law! Unfortunately city officials have been trying to squeeze 10 pounds of garbage into 5 pound bags for the last 20 years....then come up with bright ideas like proposing to build movie theaters that enter/empty right on to 4th Street at Arizona (after tearing down the City parking garage) were we all know every idiot that has been issued a driver's license will stop and hold up traffic to drop off their kids...only to return to do it all over again when picking them up. Heaven forbid their kids have to walk from a block away where the parent could avoid blocking traffic on one of the busiest main thoroughfare streets in the city. I’m sure you could come up with many more examples of the most insane development that has happened or is proposed to happen. So Barbara......where is that area with "no congestion"???
Jonathan Friedman April 10, 2013 at 04:08 am
Good luck Jessica. Watch out for Jerry.
Paul S April 10, 2013 at 01:47 am
Don't correct it Jerry - it's very you and we all knew what you meant- and it was fine
Jerry Rubin April 10, 2013 at 01:16 am
CORRECTING my previous comment: Welcome Jessica!
Chris Loos April 4, 2013 at 04:00 pm
When the Expo line is complete and people start using it to travel back and forth from Santa MonicaRead More to DTLA, I think the idea of going without a car (or getting by with 1 car per household instead of 2) will seem mainstream to many more people.
Michael April 4, 2013 at 03:33 pm
3) Getting folks to part with their cars is like forcing divorce upon a couple rapturously in loveRead More 40 minute commute from Santa Monica to Downtown LA on the Expo Line!! Where do I sign up? I will be one of the first to move to a residence within walking distance of a Santa Monica Expo Station. If not having a parking space makes my rent cheaper I have no problem selling my car.
Chris Loos April 4, 2013 at 01:43 pm
Great article Juan!
Glenn E Grab March 30, 2013 at 02:12 pm
last week it took me 1 hour and 15 minutes to go from Sepulveda and Culver to the Lemlee Theatre onRead More 2nd street at 3:30 on Sunday afternoon...I can ride my bike there in 30 minutes...the only reason I took my car was because I went with two friends...one of whom was temporarily on crutches..we griped at him the whole evening..
mimi March 29, 2013 at 02:22 am
There is another travel option for the disabled called Access Services. They transport all over losRead More angeles and neighboring suburbs. You may want to check them out. You are fortunate to have a friend who transports you around instead of riding with WISE, which you dislike.. You could be of great help to your friend if you used Google Directions (before you leave home) to find various routes to your destination. I am familiar with the Chez Jay location on Ocean Ave. There are better and worse ways to get there. I suggest you choose better. Of course, this requires advance planning and a bit of home work. Think of all the aggravation you will save yourself and your friend. The choice is yours.
Dan Charney March 29, 2013 at 02:21 am
Well said- I never go downtown - haven't for almost ten or more years- once every few years I go toRead More the Genius Bar- take the bus-( which no longer runs on my street)- I have been going to Chez Jay almost 40 years or more- I used to work out on the bluffs- can't do any shopping anywhere near Wilshire or Montana- I can walk to Main - get my groceries at night- what is happening here is no different than what is happening in Congress and to our entire country- the rich are doing as they wish - the rest of us can die- the building that will be gone soon will be any with low income tenants and shabby houses- all gone